The Old Testament Gods (Elohim) The Facts

1. KILLING.  (AS IN "THOU SHALT NOT"...???)

If Jesus's Father is the old testament god and Jesus is God then you should be able to insert Jesus's name in all of the below verses. These are short paraphrases so please read entire verse.

The old testament god personally kills a total of 371,186 people, not counting his slaughter of every living thing in Genesis 7. The old testament god also orders the killing of a total of 1,862,265.

Gen 22:2 - God accepts human sacrifices (including that of Jesus, later).
Ex 12:29 - God kills all the firstborn in the land of Egypt.
Ex 15:3 - God is a god of war.
Ex 21:15, 17 - Anyone who strikes or curses a parent must be killed.
Ex 22:18 - Every witch must be killed.
Ex 22:19, 20 - You must kill anyone who "lieth with a beast," or who worships any god other than Yahweh.
Ex 31:15 - Anyone who works on the Sabbath must be killed.
Lev 20:10, 13, 27 - You must kill adulterers, homosexuals, wizards and spirit mediums.
Lev 21:9 - Any priest's daughter who fornicates must be burned alive.
Lev 24:16 - Blasphemers must be killed.
Num 16:27-33 - God caused the whole tribe of Korah -- men, women, and children -- to be buried alive.
Num 21:3 - God caused the destruction of all the Canaanites.
Num 31:7-35 - God orders Moses to kill the Midianites, making sure to slaughter not only the men but also the boys and females, except for the 32,000 virgin girls.
Deut 3:4 - God is pleased that his warriors destroyed 60 cities.
Deut 7:16 - You must kill all the people God delivers into your hands, and "thine eye shall have no pity upon them."
Deut 13:5 - Any prophet or "dreamer of dreams," who serves another god, must be killed.
Deut 13:6-9 - If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tempts you to worship other gods, "thou shalt surely kill him."
Deut 13:13-15 - If the people of any city worship other gods, you must slaughter them all, including their cattle.
Deut 17:5 - Any man or woman who worships other deities of sun, moon or stars must be stoned to death.
Deut 18:20 - False prophets must be killed.
Deut 20:16-17 - God commands complete destruction of all Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, and "thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth."
Deut 22:21 - A bride found not to be a virgin must be stoned to death.
Deut 22:22 - Adulterers must be killed.
Deut 22:23-24 - A girl who is raped within city limits, and fails to cry out, must be killed.
Deut 28:22-28 - If you don't obey God's commandments, he will punish you with consumption, fever, extreme burning, blasting, mildew, hemorrhoids, the scab, the itch, the botch of Egypt, etc., as well as "madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart."
Josh 6:21 - God's warriors destroyed Jericho and killed every man, woman, child, and domestic animal.
Josh 8:25 - God's warriors killed 12,000 people in the city of Ai.Josh 19:47 - The children of Dan wanted more room, so they destroyed the whole population of Leshen and took their territory.

Judges 1:17-18 - Judah and Simeon utterly destroyed the populations of Zephath, Gaza, Askelon and Ekron.
Judges 11:39 - In accord with God's law, Jephthah was forced to burn his virgin daughter to death as a sacrifice.
Judges 15:15 - God enables Samson to kill 1,000 men with the jawbone of an ass.
Judges 20:46 - At Gibeah, Benjamin's men killed 25,000 people and burned every town.
1 Sam 6:19 - God kills 50,070 people for trying to peek into the Ark.
1 Sam 15:3 - God commands the destruction of Amalek: "Slay both men and women, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
2 Sam 6:7 - God kills Uzzah for touching the Ark, even though he was trying to save it from falling off its oxcart.
1 Kings 18:40 - God commands the slaughter of "prophets of Baal".
1 Kings 20:36 -  Because a man didn't "obey the voice of the Lord," a lion was sent to kill him.
2 Kings 2:24 - God sent bears to tear apart 42 children for making fun of Elisha's bald head.
2 Kings 10:25 - God commands the killing of a multitude in the temple of Baal.
2 Kings 19:35 - God's angel killed 185,000 Assyrians in a single night.
1 Chron 21:14 - God kills 70,000 Israelites with a pestilence.
2 Chron 15:13 - Any man or woman who refuses to "seek the Lord God of Israel" must be killed.
Job 1:15-19 - God arranges the killing of Job's children, servants and animals.
Isa 13:16 - God promises that all the Babylonians' children will be "dashed to pieces before their eyes;" their wives will be raped.
Isa 45:7 - God says "I create evil."
Jer 48:10 - Killing for God is mandatory; God curses anyone who "keepeth back his sword from blood."
Jer 50:21 - God commands that the people of Merathaim and Pekod be "utterly destroyed."
Ezek 9:5-7 - God calls for purging in Jerusalem: "let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women... fill the courts with the slain."
Ezek 35:8 - God promises to fill the mountains, hills, valleys and rivers with slain men.
Hosea 13:16 - God promises to have Samaritan infants dashed to pieces, and pregnant women will have their bellies slashed open.
Nahum 1:2 - God is jealous, full of vengeance and wrath.
Zeph 1:3 - God threatens to destroy everything, man and beast, birds and fishes.
Zeph 1:18 - "The whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy."
Zeph 3:6 - God brags that he has destroyed many nations.
Zech 13:3 - A false prophet must be killed by his father and mother.

2. RAPE

Ex 21:7-8 - A father may sell his daughter to be a "maidservant" (or sex slave) who must "please her master."
Num 31:7, 18 - God orders his warriors to kill every living thing in a captured city, except the virgin girls, who are to be raped and turned into sex slaves.
Deut 21:11-12 - If a warrior likes the look of a female war captive, he can take her to be one of his "wives."
Deut 22:28-29 - A man who rapes a virgin may take her for a wife if he pays her father 50 shekels of silver. (Yet, a bride found not to be a virgin must be stoned to death - Deut 22:20-21).
Judges 5:30 - The spoils of war include "a damsel or two" for every man.
Judges 21:12-23 -  God's warriors killed all the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead except for 400 virgin girls, who were taken as slaves. If there are not enough girls to go around, God's warriors may raid neighboring towns for more to rape.

3. SLAVERY

Gen 9:25 - God cursed Ham, son of Noah, with perpetual slavery for the crime of seeing his father naked.  (Ham was formerly considered the ancestor of all "blacks.")
Ex 21:4 - A male slave may marry and have children, and may go free after six years; but his family remains the property (or hostages?) of his master.
Ex 21:7 - A man may sell his daughter as a sex slave.
Ex 21:20-21 - A man may be punished for beating a male or female slave
to death, but if the victim survives the beating for a few days, then
there is no penalty.
Lev 19:20 - When a man has sex with a female slave (or "bondmaid"), SHE must be scourged.
Eph 6:5 - Paul says slaves must obey their masters "with fear and trembling."
Titus 2:9 - Paul says slaves must obey and please their masters.
1 Tim 6:1 - Paul says slaves must "count their masters worthy of all honor."

*This is the same god, the god of Abraham that Judaism, and Islam consider their god. This god is the foundation for the three monotheistic and most brutal, evil murders in human history. Seems these religions are simply doing as their god does. Can you start to see the insanity of religious history? These 3 major religions all think they are right, and everyone else is wrong, yet they believe in the same god. It's only the man made doctrine and dogma that differs. Muslims say Jesus wasn't OTgod. Jews, "the chosen people" rightly say he is not connected (Jesus did not fulfill any of the old Jewish prophecies) Yet Paul puts the connection together after Jesus's death. I believe Paul had good intentions. He wanted Christianity to spread, so he put the two together.

 We will look to the Bible next to see Jesus specifically separate himself from OTgod.
My Unconditional Love,
AVOY

As Above, so Below

                           This mysterious writing has been found in many ancient cultures. The oldest and possibly the origin of this concept was from Egypt. "The book of life" or book of Thoth was almost destroyed. The only part that was saved was the first sentence. which said...




"That which is Above, is the same as that which is Below."

God the Father

       

              God as the father is mentioned hundreds of times in the Bible. Humanity is referred to as God’s children and of course this analogy is used with Jesus the son. Let us imagine a loving God of our understanding. Let us open mindedly take a look at this analogy of father and son and hold it to the light of reason. The light of reason, logic, common sense, and our own experiences. Let us relate our own experiences as a child or more profoundly as a parent. I will begin by speaking of my personal experience as a father and my love for my son. I believe that I love my son unconditionally. Now unconditional love seems to be thrown around far too often without a real understanding of its definition. Would you say for example still unconditionally love your girlfriend if she killed your son and attack you with a knife almost stabbing you to death? For most people the answer would be no. Certainly at this stage of my spirituality don't believe I

could unconditionally love someone who did that to me and my son. Though I hope to strive to achieve that level of love.

                However my son is a different story. I, like I'm sure many 20 something-year-old fathers did not know what to expect when you hold your child in your arms for the first time. For me, that day in the delivery room, I finally loved something more than myself. This was transformative. The fact that I now had someone that I would die for, changed the way I viewed the world forever. Now back to the previous example. My son could rape and murder 30 innocent people and attempt to kill me and I would still love him unconditionally. I would not fight to get him out of jail. I certainly would not condone that type of behavior. However I would visit him regularly in prison and tell him the truth, that I love him. I know I'm not alone in this ability to make exceptions of love and forgiveness even with such “sin” or atrocities.  However he is my son and I look in his eyes and see myself, see the “image of me” he was created in. I have some strong unexplainable urge to protect, to love him.

                 We are just human beings according to most Christian theologians. The Bible tells us we are sinners we are born with this original sin which justifiably condemns us to eternal damnation. Eternal separation from our Father, from our Mother from our Creator. Now let us look at this through the open-minded eyes of Reason. If we are these damned sinners then how is it that we have the capacity for unconditional love and God does not? Where would we have inherited this ability to love someone beyond any rational way of thinking? This instinctual and fundamental knowing of unconditional love for our children? If we are made in the image of God the essence of God, how could this  crowning achievement of the human condition be anything but God? This instinctual nature would have to be categorized as one of the most godly traits we possess. How could it be anything other than Divine? So why would our loving Father create children that would even have the possibility of spending eternity apart from Him? Why would our father or mother our Creator care what we thought he looked like? The human experience thus far could be categorized accurately, as ambiguous at best. I speak for myself in saying that I have never experienced God with any of my physical five senses. So I have never heard my father's voice, seen my father's face, placed my head to my Father's chest and wept. Our father has to know how ambiguous and confusing life is. As he watches all of his children throughout the world seek in many ways, to see his face, to hear his voice, and to feel His warm embrace.

                 

                  With nothing to go on but various accounts of other men claiming to have spoken to our Father. As our Father looks at all of his children he could never judge or hold it against us if we did not believe these men’s accounts. He knows that unless He speaks directly to one of his children they are not obligated to believe any of man's tales. Man's history of being so-called “messengers of God” is suspicious at best. It doesn't take as long to see the destruction that these various messengers have brought. It does not take a genius to see man's manipulation, and lust for control, greed and selfishness. With much of this “Sinfulness” justified by man’s interpretation of god, or the complete fabrication as a being “messenger.” So far there hasn’t been proof of a certain god. Most take gravity for example as a fact. God thus far is nowhere near an absolute global agreement. So he is an Idea. God in His wisdom would, as the Bible said, read the heart. Which I see as meaning each individual's intentions.  Intentions are everything. The “True seeker” whether Muslim ,Christian, Buddhist or Hindu all have the same intention. To find their Father.  They all long to find meaning, to find that loving embrace, to find true validity of the Soul.

                    Now the means in which they go about this same intention are obviously different. The different religious beliefs create the thoughts, which create the emotions, and actions of the different Faiths. It is easy to see the conviction of certain religious zealots. The intention and conviction to blow yourself up for your Father is Faith at its highest form. That 17-year-old boy who just blew himself up, believes that he is doing his Father's (Allah’s) will. His intentions are the same as the pacifist. They both seek or intend to please their idea of God. They both “do God’s will.” So why would God care if you pictured him as a fat Asian men? Or a blue skinned Indian man with 12 arms? Or the Christ of  Nazareth? Or Mohammed? Gandhi said, “Before the throne of the Almighty, man will be judged not by his acts but by his intentions. For God alone reads our hearts.” What a great Biblically accurate, and Godly quote from a “secular, non believer” from an evangelical Christian point of view.

 Dear modern evangelical churches,

Research shows that 88% of children raised in the Church never go back after the age of 18. Jesus would come and chastise you as being the “false prophets, wolf in sheep’s clothing, and the Pharisees” which He rebuked. Society has evolved towards more accepting and altruistic thinking. Yet evolution seems to be a bad word to you. So you stay in your irrelevant superstitions, dogmas and ideas. You are blind to the fact that these beliefs and doctrine actually prevent you from being anything like Jesus. Why does this seem to be a common result? Could the attachment of the old testament god to Jesus, change our perception of "God"? The OTgod is for example jealous, full of wrath, anger, and very unforgiving. The OTgod murders, killing innocent women and children. Jesus says, "turn the other cheek." Jesus said, "Love your brother as yourself." and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If Jesus is God and God according to the Bible is "never changing..the begining and end" Then the blending of the two books is biblical impossible. You don't need AVOY to tell you this Truth, your bible does quite clearly. Jesus’s message was Love. He always said “I’m the Way, the Truth, the Light” meaning don’t worship me! Be like me, because you are like me. Jesus’s said, “Men will do what I have done and more..”  The misinterpretations of the Bible have lead to the destructive creation of the “Savior Complex”…more of that to come…All my love

-AVOY

What is Faith? Is blind faith healthy?

                 Is it possible that blind faith is the mother of doubt and fear? The faith that Jesus speaks of “faith to move a mountain” can only be achieved by “Knowing.” I can have blind faith that the snake I'm holding will not kill me. This would breed doubt and fear. However if I had the information and knowledge that this was a friendly nonpoisonous snake, then I would “Know” it would not kill me, therefore having “real Faith.” I propose that the meaning and definition of faith may have been misinterpreted. The traditional interpretation of faith seems very vague and nebulous to me. Could we imagine Jesus having this kind of blind faith before walking on water? Or did he Know? Was there any question, doubt, or fear that walking on water was possible? And was this “Know” created by information and knowledge about physics or the nature of our reality we are not privy to?

            Knowledge, information, and reason have always seemed to be separated from faith, spirituality or religion. But is this correct? Has not the lack of knowledge and ignorance been the leading cause of past evils? Would the Salem witch trials or the “Inquisition” and even the tele-evangelist of the 1990s occurred with our present day access to information and evolved knowledge? The answer I believe is clear. So if the conclusion is that more knowledge and information helps to find Truth and live more like Jesus did then why don't we apply some of our information, knowledge, experience, over the past 2000 years towards the words of Jesus? Most core Christian beliefs are still the same today as they were when the conventional thinking was that the world was flat. So the question is can new information about quantum physics and the nature of matter in our physical reality help to create a “Knowing”?

 The problem I believe is these two modalities or disciplines have been mutually separate. I believe this goes back to the heavy persecution by the Catholic Church against Galileo and the like. Because their discoveries threatened church doctrine, and most of all Power. There seems to be an idea that spiritual evolution is somehow a bad thing. Most have the idea that these traditional interpretations and doctrines of the Bible can not be updated. This of course is erroneous. We can easily see how for instance the structure of government has evolved in most countries to serve us better. If old rigid and traditional beliefs of the necessity of a king or monarchy were deemed sacred and unchangeable, then we would live in a far different world today.

 Jesus said the “truth will set you free” so why don't we believe Him? This quote from Jesus is a good example of his style of teaching. Like most of what Jesus said this can be interpreted in many ways. His message was not a clear, objective, direct or absolute message. His own disciples did not understand most of it. Jesus said those with “eyes to see and ears to hear”. So what was the delivery of Jesus's message and teachings? Were they a simple straightforward blueprint to heaven? Or like any great artist will tell you, was his message structured so the individual can find personal meaning and interpretation? Any student of Psychology or teacher knows a student who feels they “discovered” the answer themselves is much more impacted than if the student were to copy the Teachers beliefs verbatim. Jesus knew this. He had the insight and knowledge of the workings of the human mind. He understood that there could not be “one shoe” that fit all. Because people have very different life experiences that make “one way” impossible.

 For example, how could anyone who experienced or witnessed the countless evils of the Catholic Church be liable for the idea of an “Absolute way” or the “one shoe” of Christianity? In recent times, hundreds of thousands of gay Christians have been shunned from churches and disowned by their families. How would those people, based on their life experiences and exposure to that “Christianity” and that “jesus” want anything to do with it? I believe the answer is obvious, but what can we learn from this information and knowledge to gain Faith? First we have to ask ourselves in the example of the gay Christian, is that really “Christianity”? and is that really “Jesus” that they experienced? That they were exposed to? Is there an objective or absolute “Jesus and Christianity”? I believe most conventional interpretations from the church would say there is.

Okay now let's stay with that example of the gay Christian. Let's create our own church right now, for the sake of this discussion. Now in this church let's incorporate modern information, knowledge, reason and science. Now let's create just as the conventional church does an absolute “Christianity and Jesus” let's just stick with the same example of the gay Christian. Our current knowledge and understanding of homosexuality is that it is not a choice. Whether it's genetic or something that is established unconsciously during development is still up for debate. However all attempts to change a person's sexuality even in the faith-based program “The Exodus program” have failed. Recently the founder of the Exodus program has publicly stated that in his many years with the program “he has learned much about himself and God however his sexual orientation has not changed.”

 Now let's look at the facts. Jesus said nothing about homosexuality. The only mention in the Bible is in the Old Testament, and Jesus’s New Covenant makes that law irrelevant. You can’t pick and choose from old Jewish law to fit your agenda. You would have to take all of it. Which would include killing your child if they talk back, selling your daughters into slavery, and beating your slaves. Making sure of course the beatings do not kill them in a three-day period. I know this is a lengthy example but are we not starting to see that “the truth can set us free”?

 So back to our church. Let's add another element to our church. Let's say that this church knows nothing of contemporary or traditional views on homosexuality. We read the same Bible and interpret it through our modern understanding and knowledge. So we unanimously conclude that homosexuals are welcomed and equally loved in the eyes of God. We naturally assume that Jesus may have had a gay disciple or gay follower and would think nothing of it. So our churches absolute or objective “Christianity and Jesus” are far different than the conventional “absolute Christianity and Jesus” so what does this all mean? How can we tie this all together with tolerance, acceptance, compassion, and unity?

 Is an “absolute Christianity and Jesus” really just an illusion? Has our example revealed it to be really just a subjective interpretation? Just a collective belief? Those answers and “Truths” I leave up to you, the reader, the individual.  Jesus said, “the Truth will set you free.” That “Truth” is your Truth, not mine. My Truth will only set me free.

-AVOY 

God is an Idea.

                           God is way beyond our human concepts. There is no way to comprehend God at this point in our spiritual evolution. We have total free will completely boundless. We individually and collectively have created various ideas of God that have been helpful in our evolution towards love, and others towards fear and hate. Three-dimensional reality, that is physical reality up to this point has been a lesson in self limitation. And collective beliefs in unworthiness. Its purpose may be to awaken the individual, as well as the collective to the idea that our minds create our reality. That our beliefs are all equally true and valid. Because none are endorsed or condemned by the Divine. By the same token no perceived evils are endorsed by the devil or Satan. Perhaps everything is fundamentally neutral. God isn't stamping 40% approval on Catholics, and 25% approval on the Baptist. The Buddhists aren't getting 70% of divine approval nor are the Hindus being backed by a mere 7%. Again by the same token, Anton LaVey and Satanism are not backed or approved by Satan. God equally approves of all beliefs, and in fact supports the individual and collective 100% no matter how destructive the belief or rituals may be.

                       So why would God do this? Why would he allow such evil to be carried out in his “name” ? Because, He has given us complete free will. Physical reality or physical experience is far from our primary state of reality. Its purpose may be training us to realize that “believing is seeing” not the other way around. That our Imaginations can create our future. Beliefs may have vibrations attached to them and consistently produce a certain type of experience. This would explain why a portion of people from every religion find happiness and peace. While a portion experience lives full of hatred and fear. Why is this? If there was one absolute, objective God then, this could not be. Many Buddhist and even atheist live their lives much more like Jesus than do many Christians. Maybe our lesson here is to realize that monotheism or the belief in objective reality and an absolute God creates a world of ungodly people. Think about it, most wars are practically all in the name of an absolute God. The idea that my God is the right God and yours is not, has not served us. As we said before these are just man’s ideas, man made beliefs, doesnt mean its true or healthy to believe. God does not endorse this way of thinking any more than he does a more relative perspective. People die every day in the name of God because beliefs are that strong. Any belief that is attached with the belief that God endorses a certain religion or way of thinking is a very powerful thing. As we said before the intention of the suicide bomber. The Islamic extremists, is the same as the Buddhist pacifist. Their intentions both are to do God's will.

                       So what is the difference between the two? I propose that the only difference are their belief systems. One has just bought into a more extreme and violent idea of God. Again God does not approve or disapprove of such zealous and extreme beliefs and actions. The Islamic extremist is a good example of how certain beliefs typically result in certain outcomes. Every person on this planet currently, was born in the last 120 years. We were all born into a world where war was the norm. We were raised in conditioned to believe it a necessity. Modern materialism and consumerism also greatly affected the way we view ourselves and the world. This is representative of where our collective is at this moment in time. Now imagine if we were born into a world where War no longer existed. Where love unity and acceptance were the norm. Would we not then be conditioned much differently with this more evolved collective conventional beliefs? The answer to this seems very obvious of course we would. The real question however is does God need to return and save us to create heaven on earth? Is this imaginary utopia only possible through divine intervention? Or is it simply a matter of different beliefs? In time, will this age of information release us from our ignorant, self-created hell? Look at the last 300 years of our history. See how we have evolved towards love and peace. See how many hurtful beliefs are no longer part of conventional thinking. The age of Enlightenment was much more “Godly” than any religious movement. The United States Constitution has very little to do with Christianity and almost completely to do with the ideas that arose from the age of Enlightenment. These ideas were primarily created around reason, logic, intuition, personal experience and independent thinking. Almost none of the men who created the age of Enlightenment were religious, and neither were our founding fathers.

                        Many were Freemasons, and Deist who believe that God does not interfere whether good or bad here on earth. So we come full circle to see that some of the most brilliant and wise men of recent history concluded that God did not interfere with the troubles of man. God did not endorse nor oppose any of the holy wars nor any of the stretches of peace. A wise man once said “I'd like to ask God why he allows starvation, wars, and murders to happen, but I'm afraid He will ask me the same question.” Our current world is mesmerized by the illusions of the “Flesh”. This is what Jesus meant when he spoke of “the world” and “the flesh” would become hypnotized by the bright colors sounds and emotions from the exterior experience. That we have forgotten the inner One. The exterior experience is only half of life. The inner experience is Our True nature, the “Image of God” we are all created in. The formless, the spirit, the eternal.

                   Where as the external experience is mortal and on borrowed time. Seeking truth in the interior experience is the only way you can find peace happiness and fulfillment and understanding in the exterior experience. It is impossible to do it the other way around. All esoteric or ancient wisdom centers around the inner path the inner truths being “the Way” and this then changing the individual's exterior experience. These ideas of inner experience and subjective truths appear to be suppressed to a great deal in today's Western society. Why have we forgotten these things? The logical motive for its repression is the same motives as the Catholic Church had with the Gnostics and the Cathars. This is why they killed them. Because their ideas threaten the power structure of both the church and state. The idea that man does not need a priest to know God nor a king to rule over him are dangerous notions to the powers that be.
 --AVOY

Epiphanies and Quotes

"Do not search outward for Love. Instead remove all the things that are keeping you from it." -Rumi

             I've realized that we all are Spiritual Beings having a human experience. This is not our prime reality. Science proves that. You are literally not the same body every 7 years. All our cells change, we are an energy pattern, blinking in and out of this physical reality.

-AVOY

Gnostic symbol

"War is a racket, its always been where young men go to die so a select few old men become wealthy." - Gen Smedley Butler (1923)

          The Bible is cool, who knew? "Come let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness" -Genesis 1:26 The Hebrew word "Elohim" is unmistakenly Plural. So is this refering to the Trinity? Are we made in the image of the Trinity? A multi-dimensional Divine Being? Or were there "Gods" who were involved in our creation. All ancient cultures point to "The Gods from heaven" making man.

Esoteric symbol

               Lets see what BIble says, "The Sons of God came down and lay with the daughters of men. Who bore their children, who were giants, men of renown." Genesis 6:2 Sooo..that just said E.T.'s came from another planet and created hybrid children with human women. What? why didnt my sunday school teacher ever tell us that? Much more esoteric biblical stuff to come.
-AVOY

"Be the change you want to see in the world."--Gandhi

1,500th century painting with UFO